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“Lied about their new anti-union legislation, claiming unions can't be deregistered as punishment for any single wrongdoing, when the legislation does permit that.”
原始來源: Matthew Davis
原始來源
✅ 事實查核
The The claim claim is is * * * * substantially substantially accurate accurate * * * * . . Christian Christian Porter Porter made made public public statements statements that that directly directly contradicted contradicted what what government government departmental departmental officials officials later later testified testified to to during during Senate Senate inquiry inquiry . .
The claim is **substantially accurate**.
* * * * Porter Porter ' ' s s Statement Statement : : * * * * Christian Porter made public statements that directly contradicted what government departmental officials later testified to during Senate inquiry.
**Porter's Statement:**
On 31 July 2019, Porter told Parliament: "The idea that this bill, as it is drafted and presented to this parliament, would allow for deregistration for such minor or isolated instances of unprotected, unlawful industrial action is patently absurd.
On On 31 31 July July 2019 2019 , , Porter Porter told told Parliament Parliament : : " " The The idea idea that that this this bill bill , , as as it it is is drafted drafted and and presented presented to to this this parliament parliament , , would would allow allow for for deregistration deregistration for for such such minor minor or or isolated isolated instances instances of of unprotected unprotected , , unlawful unlawful industrial industrial action action is is patently patently absurd absurd . . It It ' ' s s untrue untrue . . " " [ [ 1 1 ] ] It's untrue." [1]
**Official Contradiction:**
On 25 September 2019 (less than two months later), officials from the Attorney General's Department testified to the Senate Education and Employment Committee that the bill **would** allow deregistration for single instances of certain breaches [1].
* * * * Official Official Contradiction Contradiction : : * * * * Specifically:
- Section 28G would permit deregistration for a single instance of "obstructive industrial action" if it interfered with an employer's activities, public service provision, or health/safety [1]
- Section 28F would require only "one breach of a court or tribunal order" to trigger potential deregistration [1]
Senator Tony Sheldon (Labor) directly challenged officials on this discrepancy, asking them to confirm that Porter's claims were inaccurate.
On On 25 25 September September 2019 2019 ( ( less less than than two two months months later later ) ) , , officials officials from from the the Attorney Attorney General General ' ' s s Department Department testified testified to to the the Senate Senate Education Education and and Employment Employment Committee Committee that that the the bill bill * * * * would would * * * * allow allow deregistration deregistration for for single single instances instances of of certain certain breaches breaches [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . Specifically Specifically : : The officials agreed that the bill provisions differed from Porter's public statements [1].
- - Section Section 28G 28G would would permit permit deregistration deregistration for for a a single single instance instance of of " " obstructive obstructive industrial industrial action action " " if if it it interfered interfered with with an an employer employer ' ' s s activities activities , , public public service service provision provision , , or or health health / / safety safety [ [ 1 1 ] ] - - Section Section 28F 28F would would require require only only " " one one breach breach of of a a court court or or tribunal tribunal order order " " to to trigger trigger potential potential deregistration deregistration [ [ 1 1 ] ] Senator Senator Tony Tony Sheldon Sheldon ( ( Labor Labor ) ) directly directly challenged challenged officials officials on on this this discrepancy discrepancy , , asking asking them them to to confirm confirm that that Porter Porter ' ' s s claims claims were were inaccurate inaccurate . . The The officials officials agreed agreed that that the the bill bill provisions provisions differed differed from from Porter Porter ' ' s s public public statements statements [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . 缺失的脈絡
However However , , several several important important contextual contextual points points complicate complicate the the " " lie lie " " characterization characterization : :
However, several important contextual points complicate the "lie" characterization:
**1.
* * * * 1 1 . . Existing Existing Law Law Baseline Baseline : : * * * * Existing Law Baseline:**
Officials explained that these provisions were **modelled on existing law** which already allowed deregistration for single instances in "very specific parts of the Fair Work Act or Registered Organisations Act" [1].
Officials Officials explained explained that that these these provisions provisions were were * * * * modelled modelled on on existing existing law law * * * * which which already already allowed allowed deregistration deregistration for for single single instances instances in in " " very very specific specific parts parts of of the the Fair Fair Work Work Act Act or or Registered Registered Organisations Organisations Act Act " " [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . The The question question is is whether whether the the bill bill * * expanded expanded * * this this existing existing power power . . The question is whether the bill *expanded* this existing power.
**2.
* * * * 2 2 . . Bill Bill ' ' s s Expansion Expansion of of Scope Scope : : * * * * Bill's Expansion of Scope:**
The key expansion was that Potter's statement could have been technically correct about the *intent* but wrong about the *scope*.
The The key key expansion expansion was was that that Potter Potter ' ' s s statement statement could could have have been been technically technically correct correct about about the the * * intent intent * * but but wrong wrong about about the the * * scope scope * * . . Officials Officials stated stated : : " " Now Now these these would would apply apply to to any any failure failure to to comply comply with with any any order order or or injunction injunction made made under under the the core core workplace workplace laws laws " " and and " " There There ' ' s s potentially potentially more more orders orders or or failures failures to to comply comply with with injunctions injunctions that that might might be be relevant relevant " " [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . Officials stated: "Now these would apply to any failure to comply with any order or injunction made under the core workplace laws" and "There's potentially more orders or failures to comply with injunctions that might be relevant" [1].
The The bill bill essentially essentially broadened broadened the the * * * * types types of of breaches breaches * * * * that that could could trigger trigger single single - - instance instance deregistration deregistration , , not not that that it it * * created created * * the the power power from from nothing nothing . . The bill essentially broadened the **types of breaches** that could trigger single-instance deregistration, not that it *created* the power from nothing.
**3.
* * * * 3 3 . . Court Court Discretion Discretion : : * * * * Court Discretion:**
Officials noted that courts would still be required to consider "the gravity of offences and the impact of deregistration on members when considering if it was an 'unjust' penalty" [1].
Officials Officials noted noted that that courts courts would would still still be be required required to to consider consider " " the the gravity gravity of of offences offences and and the the impact impact of of deregistration deregistration on on members members when when considering considering if if it it was was an an ' ' unjust unjust ' ' penalty penalty " " [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . This This means means courts courts retained retained discretion discretion even even when when single single breaches breaches occurred occurred . . This means courts retained discretion even when single breaches occurred.
**4.
* * * * 4 4 . . Definitions Definitions Matter Matter : : * * * * Definitions Matter:**
Porter's statement specifically referenced "minor or isolated instances of unprotected, unlawful industrial action." The bill's provisions were indeed narrower—targeting specific types of breaches (obstructive action, court order violations) rather than all industrial action [1].
Porter Porter ' ' s s statement statement specifically specifically referenced referenced " " minor minor or or isolated isolated instances instances of of unprotected unprotected , , unlawful unlawful industrial industrial action action . . " " The The bill bill ' ' s s provisions provisions were were indeed indeed narrower narrower — — targeting targeting specific specific types types of of breaches breaches ( ( obstructive obstructive action action , , court court order order violations violations ) ) rather rather than than all all industrial industrial action action [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . 來源可信度評估
* * * * The The Guardian Guardian article article * * * * is is a a mainstream mainstream , , reputable reputable news news source source with with a a track track record record of of investigative investigative journalism journalism . . The The article article reports reports on on * * * * official official government government testimony testimony * * * * from from departmental departmental officials officials , , not not speculation speculation . . The The author author ( ( Paul Paul Karp Karp ) ) is is a a senior senior political political correspondent correspondent known known for for accuracy accuracy . . The The article article directly directly quotes quotes both both Porter Porter ' ' s s parliamentary parliamentary statement statement and and the the departmental departmental officials officials ' ' testimony testimony , , making making it it verifiable verifiable [ [ 1 1 ] ] . .
**The Guardian article** is a mainstream, reputable news source with a track record of investigative journalism.
This This is is not not opinion opinion journalism journalism or or partisan partisan advocacy advocacy — — it it ' ' s s straightforward straightforward reporting reporting of of a a factual factual contradiction contradiction between between two two sets sets of of official official statements statements made made under under different different circumstances circumstances . . The article reports on **official government testimony** from departmental officials, not speculation.
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Labor 比較
* * * * Did Did Labor Labor previously previously deregister deregister unions unions ? ? * * * *
**Did Labor previously deregister unions?**
Yes, and notably.
Yes Yes , , and and notably notably . . The The Hawke Hawke Labor Labor Government Government deregistered deregistered the the * * * * Builders Builders Labourers Labourers Federation Federation ( ( BLF BLF ) ) in in 1986 1986 * * * * following following a a Royal Royal Commission Commission into into corruption corruption [ [ 2 2 ] ] . . This This was was a a full full deregistration deregistration of of a a union union covering covering multiple multiple states states ( ( federally federally , , ACT ACT , , NSW NSW , , and and Victoria Victoria ) ) [ [ 2 2 ] ] . . The Hawke Labor Government deregistered the **Builders Labourers Federation (BLF) in 1986** following a Royal Commission into corruption [2].
This This is is crucial crucial context context : : Labor Labor itself itself used used the the deregistration deregistration power power as as a a blunt blunt instrument instrument . . The The BLF BLF deregistration deregistration was was described described as as " " brutal brutal " " and and " " union union busting busting " " even even by by left left - - leaning leaning sources sources [ [ 3 3 ] ] . . Unlike Unlike the the Coalition Coalition bill bill ' ' s s theoretical theoretical single single - - breach breach scenario scenario , , Labor Labor ' ' s s action action was was a a complete complete deregistration deregistration based based on on systemic systemic corruption corruption findings findings . . This was a full deregistration of a union covering multiple states (federally, ACT, NSW, and Victoria) [2].
* * * * Key Key difference difference : : * * * * Labor Labor ' ' s s deregistration deregistration was was based based on on demonstrated demonstrated corruption corruption through through a a Royal Royal Commission Commission . . The The Coalition Coalition bill bill would would have have allowed allowed courts courts to to deregister deregister unions unions more more readily readily for for specified specified breaches breaches . . However However , , both both Labor Labor and and Coalition Coalition have have shown shown willingness willingness to to use use deregistration deregistration as as a a tool tool . . This is crucial context: Labor itself used the deregistration power as a blunt instrument.
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平衡觀點
* * * * The The Government Government ' ' s s Case Case ( ( Partial Partial Defense Defense ) ) : : * * * *
**The Government's Case (Partial Defense):**
1. **Technical distinctions:** Porter's statement specifically referenced "minor or isolated instances" as the sole trigger.
1 1 . . * * * * Technical Technical distinctions distinctions : : * * * * Porter Porter ' ' s s statement statement specifically specifically referenced referenced " " minor minor or or isolated isolated instances instances " " as as the the sole sole trigger trigger . . The The bill bill ' ' s s provisions provisions were were more more specific specific — — targeting targeting obstructive obstructive industrial industrial action action and and court court order order breaches breaches specifically specifically , , not not any any single single wrongdoing wrongdoing [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . The bill's provisions were more specific—targeting obstructive industrial action and court order breaches specifically, not any single wrongdoing [1].
2. **Existing framework reference:** The bill modeled its single-breach provisions on existing law, so Porter could argue he was claiming the bill didn't *introduce* single-breach deregistration, just extended the *types* of breaches covered [1].
3. **Intent vs.
2 2 . . * * * * Existing Existing framework framework reference reference : : * * * * The The bill bill modeled modeled its its single single - - breach breach provisions provisions on on existing existing law law , , so so Porter Porter could could argue argue he he was was claiming claiming the the bill bill didn didn ' ' t t * * introduce introduce * * single single - - breach breach deregistration deregistration , , just just extended extended the the * * types types * * of of breaches breaches covered covered [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . Implementation:** Porter may have intended to convey that the bill required serious breaches, not trivial ones.
3 3 . . * * * * Intent Intent vs vs . . Implementation Implementation : : * * * * Porter Porter may may have have intended intended to to convey convey that that the the bill bill required required serious serious breaches breaches , , not not trivial trivial ones ones . . However However , , he he failed failed to to distinguish distinguish between between single single breaches breaches ( ( which which the the bill bill allowed allowed ) ) and and minor minor breaches breaches ( ( which which was was debatable debatable ) ) . . However, he failed to distinguish between single breaches (which the bill allowed) and minor breaches (which was debatable).
4. **Policy Rationale:** The government argued this was necessary to ensure unions couldn't treat fines "as a cost of business" and continue lawbreaking [1].
4 4 . . * * * * Policy Policy Rationale Rationale : : * * * * The The government government argued argued this this was was necessary necessary to to ensure ensure unions unions couldn couldn ' ' t t treat treat fines fines " " as as a a cost cost of of business business " " and and continue continue lawbreaking lawbreaking [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . This This represented represented a a legitimate legitimate policy policy position position about about union union accountability accountability . . This represented a legitimate policy position about union accountability.
**The Critics' Case (Strong):**
1. **Clear Contradiction:** Officials unambiguously testified that the bill would allow single-breach deregistration.
* * * * The The Critics Critics ' ' Case Case ( ( Strong Strong ) ) : : * * * * Porter's statement said it wouldn't.
1 1 . . * * * * Clear Clear Contradiction Contradiction : : * * * * Officials Officials unambiguously unambiguously testified testified that that the the bill bill would would allow allow single single - - breach breach deregistration deregistration . . Porter Porter ' ' s s statement statement said said it it wouldn wouldn ' ' t t . . This This is is a a direct direct factual factual contradiction contradiction [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . This is a direct factual contradiction [1].
2. **Public Misleading:** The contradiction matters because Parliament and the public were being given different information than what officials later acknowledged the bill contained [1].
3. **Timeline:** The official contradiction came within two months of Porter's statement, suggesting this wasn't a matter of interpretation evolving—Porter had simply misstated the bill's provisions.
4. **Broader Context:** The bill did expand deregistration grounds beyond existing law by broadening what "orders" and "breaches" could trigger it [1].
2 2 . . * * * * Public Public Misleading Misleading : : * * * * The The contradiction contradiction matters matters because because Parliament Parliament and and the the public public were were being being given given different different information information than than what what officials officials later later acknowledged acknowledged the the bill bill contained contained [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . 3 3 . . * * * * Timeline Timeline : : * * * * The The official official contradiction contradiction came came within within two two months months of of Porter Porter ' ' s s statement statement , , suggesting suggesting this this wasn wasn ' ' t t a a matter matter of of interpretation interpretation evolving evolving — — Porter Porter had had simply simply misstated misstated the the bill bill ' ' s s provisions provisions . . 4 4 . . * * * * Broader Broader Context Context : : * * * * The The bill bill did did expand expand deregistration deregistration grounds grounds beyond beyond existing existing law law by by broadening broadening what what " " orders orders " " and and " " breaches breaches " " could could trigger trigger it it [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . 真實
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with with important important qualification qualification about about what what " " lie lie " " means means . .
with important qualification about what "lie" means.
Christian Christian Porter Porter * * * * did did make make a a factually factually inaccurate inaccurate statement statement * * * * about about the the bill bill ' ' s s deregistration deregistration provisions provisions . . Government Government officials officials explicitly explicitly contradicted contradicted him him during during Senate Senate testimony testimony , , confirming confirming that that the the bill bill * * * * would would * * * * permit permit deregistration deregistration for for single single instances instances of of certain certain breaches breaches ( ( obstructive obstructive industrial industrial action action , , court court order order violations violations ) ) [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . Christian Porter **did make a factually inaccurate statement** about the bill's deregistration provisions.
However However , , whether whether this this constitutes constitutes an an intentional intentional " " lie lie " " versus versus a a misleading misleading mischaracterization mischaracterization is is debatable debatable : : Government officials explicitly contradicted him during Senate testimony, confirming that the bill **would** permit deregistration for single instances of certain breaches (obstructive industrial action, court order violations) [1].
- - The The bill bill didn didn ' ' t t * * create create * * single single - - breach breach deregistration deregistration from from nothing nothing — — it it existed existed in in existing existing law law However, whether this constitutes an intentional "lie" versus a misleading mischaracterization is debatable:
- The bill didn't *create* single-breach deregistration from nothing—it existed in existing law
- The bill did *expand* which breaches could trigger it
- Porter's specific language about "minor" breaches created ambiguity about whether he meant single breaches per se or only serious single breaches
The most accurate characterization: **Porter made a misleading public statement that was contradicted by his own officials when tested under scrutiny.**
- - The The bill bill did did * * expand expand * * which which breaches breaches could could trigger trigger it it - - Porter Porter ' ' s s specific specific language language about about " " minor minor " " breaches breaches created created ambiguity ambiguity about about whether whether he he meant meant single single breaches breaches per per se se or or only only serious serious single single breaches breaches The The most most accurate accurate characterization characterization : : * * * * Porter Porter made made a a misleading misleading public public statement statement that that was was contradicted contradicted by by his his own own officials officials when when tested tested under under scrutiny scrutiny . . * * * * 最終分數
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真實
with with important important qualification qualification about about what what " " lie lie " " means means . .
with important qualification about what "lie" means.
Christian Christian Porter Porter * * * * did did make make a a factually factually inaccurate inaccurate statement statement * * * * about about the the bill bill ' ' s s deregistration deregistration provisions provisions . . Government Government officials officials explicitly explicitly contradicted contradicted him him during during Senate Senate testimony testimony , , confirming confirming that that the the bill bill * * * * would would * * * * permit permit deregistration deregistration for for single single instances instances of of certain certain breaches breaches ( ( obstructive obstructive industrial industrial action action , , court court order order violations violations ) ) [ [ 1 1 ] ] . . Christian Porter **did make a factually inaccurate statement** about the bill's deregistration provisions.
However However , , whether whether this this constitutes constitutes an an intentional intentional " " lie lie " " versus versus a a misleading misleading mischaracterization mischaracterization is is debatable debatable : : Government officials explicitly contradicted him during Senate testimony, confirming that the bill **would** permit deregistration for single instances of certain breaches (obstructive industrial action, court order violations) [1].
- - The The bill bill didn didn ' ' t t * * create create * * single single - - breach breach deregistration deregistration from from nothing nothing — — it it existed existed in in existing existing law law However, whether this constitutes an intentional "lie" versus a misleading mischaracterization is debatable:
- The bill didn't *create* single-breach deregistration from nothing—it existed in existing law
- The bill did *expand* which breaches could trigger it
- Porter's specific language about "minor" breaches created ambiguity about whether he meant single breaches per se or only serious single breaches
The most accurate characterization: **Porter made a misleading public statement that was contradicted by his own officials when tested under scrutiny.**
- - The The bill bill did did * * expand expand * * which which breaches breaches could could trigger trigger it it - - Porter Porter ' ' s s specific specific language language about about " " minor minor " " breaches breaches created created ambiguity ambiguity about about whether whether he he meant meant single single breaches breaches per per se se or or only only serious serious single single breaches breaches The The most most accurate accurate characterization characterization : : * * * * Porter Porter made made a a misleading misleading public public statement statement that that was was contradicted contradicted by by his his own own officials officials when when tested tested under under scrutiny scrutiny . . * * * * 📚 來源與引用 (4)
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Ensuring integrity bill: officials contradict Christian Porter on union deregistration
Coalition bill would allow deregistration for single instances of unprotected industrial action, inquiry told
the Guardian -
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Builders Labourers Federation
Wikipedia -
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How Labor's union busting broke the BLF
There are lessons for the CFMEU today from the way Labor succeeded in breaking the Builders' Labourers Federation in 1986, argues Tom Orsag.
Solidarity Online – Socialist organisation in Australia affiliated to the International Socialist Tendency -
4
Federal Government's crackdown on unions rejected by Senate after One Nation sides with Opposition
Gasps of surprise, cheers from the Opposition and Ministers left dumbfounded as Pauline Hanson and Jacqui Lambie join forces to deliver a shock defeat of the Government's signature union crackdown legislation in the Senate.
Abc Net
評分量表方法論
1-3: 虛假
事實不正確或惡意捏造。
4-6: 部分
有部分真實性,但缺乏或扭曲了背景。
7-9: 大致屬實
微小的技術性問題或措辭問題。
10: 準確
完美驗證且在情境上公正。
方法論: 評分通過交叉比對官方政府記錄、獨立事實查核組織和原始來源文件來確定。